i got a pair of docs in dec they r a size 4 in uk (5 or 6 in us girls) and they r 2 big for me but at the time it was the smallest pair they had so i sucked it up but i just for the uks 3s i need they r in good shape 14 eye steel toe, the toes has a few nicks it it for braking into a abandoned mental hospital, there r barely broken in as well so u have still get the joy of braking them in urself i took pictures all angels so u can see the shape of the docs let me know if ur interested