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What is the extent that parents should be allowed to control their children?
I believe a parents role in the family is to teach them how to behave in society and values etc, and look after them, but some go too far and others get plainly ridiculous.
so ideas?

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Wearing hats.
I have to agree with you. That they are supposed to teach you those things. Sometimes though the parents ideas of values were forced onto them. I feel that they should lay the ground work and its up to the children to develop themselves based on others they interact with. Though it is the parents responsibility to advise the child and express why they don't agree with other views.
To me, if you put too many restrictions and guidelines on kids they are more than likely to just rebel. For instance me. When I was a kid they didn't let me around smoking,drugs,alchol,sex,violence, or let me experiance my self in any cultural way.

How parents should be for the drugs,smoking and all that. But when you take it to far you can only wonder. I left drugs and drinking for good. Just smoke cigarettes but Iv'e been in A LOT of trouble because I couldn't handle my parents over my back, telling me what to do and just blinding me with a fake, dream world. You can do your kids a favour by letting them know a little bit about the world instead of sugar coating it in your words and make them see only what you want them to see. Cause when there out there all by them selvs it will hit them hard. How hard life truely is. It's not a pretty sight whats happening out there these days. But it never was a pretty sight. Just let your kids make desicons, the choices they make depict them as a person. and hopefully they outcome is good.

Just because these kids decide to dress differently and make a statement doesn't always mean it's a BAD statement. like with me. People think im a junkie slammer , dope user etc.. (I used to) But being 18 I turned my drug problem around. People need to learn, Everyone isn't a bad person. There are good people. Like me and you. they just need to the right friends, REAL friends who care. and people that love you. And you should be set!
Things my parents don't care about:
1. What I look like.
2. What music I listen to.
3. What television I watch.
4. What time I come home at night.
5. What I do on the internet.
6. Who I hang out with.

What they taught me to never, ever do:
1. Treat another person like crap.
2. Shit that will mess up your body on the inside, other than casual drinking.
3. Throw away opportunities.

And that's how I turned out like I am.I like to think that it's given me a lot of opportunities to make mistakes and learn from them, but also to develop some individuality and personality of my own.
The people you hang out with is pretty important, and time coming home, parents worry and that's natural.
My parents are pretty much the same way. My mom even lends me her house to drink or smoke just so that she knows I'm safe. (Although Ive never taken her up on it, but its still nice).

As for my dad, he cares a bit, but he knows that its easier just to accept small things he dislikes than to battle with me.
My dad is trying to make me grow my hair back out, because he doesnt like my mohawk.
He almost made me throw away all me dark clothes, and punk clothes because when I'm out in public it makes him look bad. He cares so much about people thinking hes a good parent that he tries so hard to control everything about me and make me do thinkgs that he would do, that its making him a bad parent. I do understand though why he dislikes who I am so much. When he was my age he was a terrible kid. He was in and out of prison doing hard drugs, started with weed went up to meth, being in prison so long got off the meth though. He only had one punk friend and he was a crappy person. So my dad just relates the way I look and the music I like to his friend, and he thiks thats the type of person I am. He thinks all punk are bad and do drugs. He told me to never be a punk. I respect my father and I dont listen to my music when he is around because he doesnt like it, and when I go out with him I dress nice...somewhat, but nice enough. I still have my hawk though, and that doesnt make him too happy.
to the age of 18 its fair game. after that no control of course. however, until 18 the parents should begin to back off. let the kid stay out longer, date, etc. idk, i always had great parents so i can't really say much.
Haha, I'm 20, my parents still act like I'm 14.
Which makes the whole moving out thing long and tedious and stressful.
Nope! haha The youngest is ten. I'm basically ancient in terms of kids in my family. And wayyy more responsible.

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